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Ferrum
Fri Nov 27 2009, 05:52AM
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Well Bunker and I rented, and its not exactly impressive, its more of the same with the couple of new goodies, other than that, it feels more like an expansion pack than actual game. We didn't mess with online but campaign was more or less short and had some irritating aspects. The hit detection seemed messed up [TV guided missle passing through a chopper boom, sniper shots not registering] All in all, rent at best, I wouldn't recommend this for a purchase. The Multiplayer seems like a Modded CoD4 [Such as Rathouse for CoD4, You get an impressive choice in weapons, but it doesnt make up for the limitations on their servers and reliability.

I personally feel that Despite the faults BF usually has, its a better choice for a tactical FPS, CoD is becoming MoH in their handling More of the same with a few new shiny things Like Madden.

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I don't know if I agree with that. Tons of new customizable weapons , upgrades, kill streaks, death streaks, emblems, titles, along with a whole new set of perks, maps, and game types. A vastly more diverse and longer campaign, stunning visuals and graphic improvements, and an entire new two player game mode special ops. Modern Warfare 2 is to be considered as one the greatest games ever put out with the largest online network in the history of gaming. Modern Warfare 2 is far more than just an expansion and is worth the buy on any console or system.
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I totally disagree Gugger. This game is more like a expansion.

The campain is way shorter. I finished it in 4 hours and 10 mins on Hardend mode. That is bogus.

They say the game is not balanced for lean but when you play single player the AI is leaning and blind shooting. That is total BS. If its not balanced for lean then why in the hell does AI do it. Beleave me when I say it would make alot of sence to be able to do it if the AI is using the tatic.

Also they have taken any and all skill out of the game hence the "This game is not balanced for it" phrase they use so much. They dont have lean. Means you have to expose yourself to shoot anyone. The weapons are basically idiot proof meaning anyone can play this game and get kills. They have taken away simple commands that make the game play smoother for other people who dont have top of the line computers and that gives the people who have the money to build top of the line comps an atvantage. They have taken away more things and raised the price. Now you have to pay for your content like a consoles. I will not pay for content for a game on the PC. That is just crazy to support that. PC has always got content for free.

And when I say the guns are idiot proof an example would be the sniper rifles. They are a joke in my opinion. You dont even have to hold your breath to take a long shot. The sway is not there. Point and click. This game has some nice graphics yes, but that is only because they used DX10. Ofcourse there will be a improvment on it. Overall on the SP side. Its looks good and way to short, and the weapons are a joke. Oh and if you like the AKIMBO perk. I would have to say STEADY AIM is a must with that perk.

As for Multi Play. Will not touch a P2P (Peer To Peer) game for $60 when you can play WarRock for free. You can get the same experience from that game. Why and the hell would you want to pay that kind of money for a game that make a PC play like a console. I can not support this game until there is some major changes.

These are my opinions and you think what you want. If you like this game then good I hope you enjoy it. I will not be playing it with you. I will not support in killing the PC communities out there. I know what you are thinking. How is that? I sure as hell dont see AUG recuiting in that game and or finding new ppl. We have still found more players in CoD 4 then MW2 since its release. Hell you cant even put a TAG on your name with out you making your account name with it in it. At least WarRock lets you put a TAG to represent your clan.

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I also have to agree with Ika with this one. The game has become idiot proof. And with the flaws that some people cant see. I played through the spec ops mode. Im sorry but COME ON PEOPLE!! That type of game style was put into Rainbow six. ALL of them, AKA terrorist hunt. When we played through the game its just too easy in some points yet you have random deaths, an example, phantom was blown to pieces because a barrel decided to blow up next to him. Nothing had shot it. It just blew up. The story line left something to be desired. Korny twists here and there. Ohh and i dont know if you noticed this one either Ika, on the snowmobiles.... You're able to shoot randomly and instantly kill ANYTHING thats infront of you. Every single infantry that even was half way infront of the snowmobile was shot dead from a G18. Come on. Yet at times it takes 2 shot gun blasts to the face to kill a standard infantry 2 ft infront of you. Im sorry i really dislike this game and would never pay to rent it ever again. Let alone the purchase. I wouldnt even want anyone to pay for that POS for me.

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I pretty much expected it to be crap... I should become a physic or something =D
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Honestly, it's not THAT bad.
Well, if you don't mind not being able to do jacks**t in multiplayer.
The story is great, though multiplayer is... not as much fun as MW MP. (I am refering to the 360 version)
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I personally enjoy MW2 and think it's a nice sequel to the first. But just my opinion.

I think the decision to go to Steam and such was because of the unbelievable amount of mods and hacks in the first. While some mods are cool and actually extend the gameplay, there's of course the other side where people cheat the game and ruin it for everyone else. In my short time on MW1 PC, PunkBuster seemed worthless. It's the main reason I stick to 360 for my FPS fun. As for paying for additional content, I'll agree, it's crap. I think it's crap on the 360 too. Especially considering you already pay for Live. PCs are probably gonna start seeing more of it. Sims 3 cut it's content in half and provided the rest conveniently at the new Sims Store (a furniture set is 20 bucks!). It's all crap.
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(Opinion time)I dont see how anyone can enjoy multiplayer on a console. I've tried several times with WaW, and either someone is wall hacking and killing people through the floor, or the fact that I cant lean is busy pissing me off. That the PC version of MW2 has come to equate to the same thing means to me that its not worth it.

Btw, I thought PB and AON were the only things keeping the hackers at bay. And if modded maps were such a problem for them why didn't they put a stop to them by CoD2 or something instead of making it the norm and then snatching it away from us like some bully in a playground?

Also, its not the first time that I've heard it considered being too short. And considering Activision has a history of charging 60 bucks for something shorter than the original game regardless (i.e., WoW expansions) there's no doubt in my mind that MW2 was probably meant to be an expansion and was just repackaged as the next game. After all, it's not the first time the VG industry pulls the wool over our heads...and it won't be the last either.
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I haven't seen that on my console Blues (though I never played WaW). I've heard alot of rumors about hacks on the consoles, PS3 in fact has a lot of supporting evidence to suggest aimbot is alive and well with PSN (though not endorsed I'm sure.)

I can't speak from experience with MW2-PC but from what IW said, you can still set up private matches. I'm not the hardest corest FPS guy out there, but I guess I fail to see the necessity, while it's nice, of a dedicated server. Someone fill me in (and I'm not being sarcastic, I seriously don't get it). Besides the trade off being the reduction of cheaters is a good enough reason for me. But I'll be playing on 360 anyway so I'm just discussing, won't affect me either way. Though it'd be nice to get a 360 clan going on here.

Agreed on length. It's a pretty short game. The Spec Ops is nice but it's not enough to make me buy the game. I blindly bought it knowing full well that I really only wanted to keep up with the multiplayer. The additions to MP is significant enough to me (especially with Martyrdom being a random deathstreak now instead of "OMG these friggin martyrs!) Do I think this could easily pass for an expansion? Yes. Am I surprised it's packaged as a stand alone? Not one bit.
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dedicated servers have alot over the current system they have in place.

Dedicated server supports communities and clans like this 1. You cant even have a clan tag in the game unless you make your account with it. That is sad in many ways.

2.Peer to Peer will never be as reliable as a dedicated connection. There is to many things to even talk about on that subject.

3. No mod support means content is far and few between. Also it opens the door for them to charge for it when PC has always got content for free. I for 1 will never pay for DLC. PC has never done it before and I dont plan on starting or supporting it.

Most of the stuff in MW2 was taken from the modders of MW communities and never givin credit for it.

Example C-130 gunship was used in a mod in the first year of MW release in the X4 mod.
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well let me remove the rock your evidently been living under ... lol so to speak as for MW2 Cheats that are availalbe just google it.. but since i dont support the console games nor their **Cough **Cough** cheat free Cough** Servers ***
this was the first one off the google list that i found
-=<( Click Here )>=- and a current list of cheats available are as follows
FEATURE LIST
Aimbot
Point/Health/Distance/FOV
Aim on key/full autoaim
Triggerbot
Aimthruwalls (kill enemies thru walls)
Location prediction (much better than other bots)
Bullet correction
No recoil
Priority system for target selection
Auto shooter
Grenade aimbot
Aim lock
Vector/Tag support
Humanised aiming
Random aiming
Ignore/Enemy lists

ESP
Player names
Player distance
Player weapon
Player health
Class icon ESP
Grenade/trapmines icon ESP incl. timer
Bounding boxes
Laserpointer
Playerstate indicator (Zoomed, moving)

Visuals
Crosshair
Crosshairnames
Threat warning
Kill stats
Superzoom
Grenade trace & prediction
Sniper scope removal
No Shellshock/no flashbang/no fog
3D radar/direction indicator
Multikill/headshot messages (with icons!!)

Automatism
Auto vote/kick
Auto name change
Auto grenade throwback

Chams
Colored models
Chams, colors customizable

Aequitas/CAL/ANY anticheat
Cvar unlocker
Autovote
Winamp spammer
Instant level up to 55
Config autosave/load (also by menu)
GUI/Menu
Multi-Mod support (works on any COD4 version, e.g. PAM)
Easy Setup

Sounds
Multikill sounds
Spree sounds

Spam
Console spammer (frags, winamp)
Custom killspam

PB
Undetected
Stealth hooking
Cvar hide
Clean screenshots
Enhanced PB protection
Dynamic polymorphism (beat PB signature scans

Wallhack
See players thru walls

now as for why ME Personally am against MW2 being released for console ..that goes down a different thread altogether .. but here are a few reasons

No Dedicated Servers, No Server Admins , No Teams over 20 Players, No Mods that are available to be made for the platform nor maps (except for those the Company releases and forces you the consumer to purchase)
the game software effectively becomes another ...its like the you go down to buy a car and the dealer hands you the keys and says ... ok now that you have purchased the car ...here are the rules to owning it..."we the dealer will tell you what you can listen to on the radio...we the dealer will tell you where you can drive your car ...we the dealer will tell you what gas station to go to...we the dealer will tell you who is allowed in your car...we the dealer will tell you whether or not you can roll the window down..."i tell ya if the VG makers are allowed to continue in this event as they are...the PC gaming enviromen will go to the way side ...and the biggest issue is the Console game platforms will be slitting their own wrists in the process... after all its the PC gamers that are designing the software ...and the architecture to which these Console MFG's are utilizing to make you the consumer pay for something that should come automatically with the purchse of the game in the first place...and that is to use the software as it is intended for use ..on the PC .... I didnt buy or build my PC to emulate a Console so why should i purchase a game that emulates a console game for use on a PC?
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I totally agree Raijin. Its sad when you look at it this way. I was talking to phantom the other day about the length of games. There have only been a few games that are worth the money in length. Assassin's Creed 2 was a surprise when i found out its over 10 hours long, even longer if you do all the side missions. Look back just 10 yrs. Dont even have to go back that far. But back 10 yrs ago game were 6-8 hours long depending on the game. But for instance I know halo wasnt exactly made 10 yrs ago but close enough. It had a 8 hour gametime for the first play through. Thats double the time MW2. And i know some of you will say its shorter than 8 hours. Play it through the right difficulty the first time through. Some of you play it on Easy and when it should be played by "US" (Us being the FPS gamers in this community) on Heroic difficulty. Because i know that most of us are very good at the FPS genre. I could go on for hours about how the older games had more gameplay. Its to the point we are getting cheated out of our money. The RPG's seems to keep everyone hooked for a long period of time, maybe because you can play them for just about forever. For the most part you get content for free. Aion for an example. They have been putting new weapons and armor in the game line up for patches. I really think we are losing out on the money we work hard for. We pay these high prices for games that just even 5 yrs ago we would have said there needs to be more to it before i pay 60 bucks. Let alone when 360 and PS3 came out people were mad that they were gonna charge 60 bucks.
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Keens wrote ...

I haven't seen that on my console Blues (though I never played WaW). I've heard alot of rumors about hacks on the consoles, PS3 in fact has a lot of supporting evidence to suggest aimbot is alive and well with PSN (though not endorsed I'm sure.)

I can't speak from experience with MW2-PC but from what IW said, you can still set up private matches. I'm not the hardest corest FPS guy out there, but I guess I fail to see the necessity, while it's nice, of a dedicated server. Someone fill me in (and I'm not being sarcastic, I seriously don't get it). Besides the trade off being the reduction of cheaters is a good enough reason for me. But I'll be playing on 360 anyway so I'm just discussing, won't affect me either way. Though it'd be nice to get a 360 clan going on here.

Agreed on length. It's a pretty short game. The Spec Ops is nice but it's not enough to make me buy the game. I blindly bought it knowing full well that I really only wanted to keep up with the multiplayer. The additions to MP is significant enough to me (especially with Martyrdom being a random deathstreak now instead of "OMG these friggin martyrs!) Do I think this could easily pass for an expansion? Yes. Am I surprised it's packaged as a stand alone? Not one bit.


Obi-wan has taught you well.

But yeah, I've played WaW multiplayer on PS3 a number of times (or tried to) on that one map that looks like a castle...actually I think the map is called "Castle"...I've played with people who know how to fall through the map and they just walk around shooting people under it. Thanks to Killcam and Ika I know this for a fact (thanks goes to Ika because he told me about the hole in the map and explained on a PC it's practically impossible to exploit that hole and even if someone does they'd be automatically kicked; in console you can't kick anyone D:<)

So I only play FPS' on consoles for singleplayer. Patterson can tell you, I'm not that good at Halo multiplayer, I played with him and my ex while I was at her house. Yet I can manage to do solo legendary fairly well.

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For all the console players out there who seem to think that cheats are not possible on console. I say wake up. Do a search. You will learn that there is cheats available for any platform. All it takes is a little searching and you will find that people have figured something out. There is no such place as a 100% cheat free system. Someone always figures out how to beat the system, and that system has to adjust to keep up.

Lets take our CoD4 server for instance. Alot of newbies claim our people are cheaters, when infact they are skilled players. There is alot of people who would come into our server and claim a number of cheats and BS. I have seen it all. The thing is who are these people to claim cheater basing everything they know how to do and what they are capable of doing. I call BS of their call. I let our system of 4 unified ban lists and config checks do that work. Yes I said 4, I do not run just PB. I have other things with it that are just as reputible as PB and it has kept cheaters out of our server from Day 1. I have seen instant bans, so many infact I lost count. It was so bad at one point I used to count how many I would see in a day. We have almost as many bans as there is players in MW2 right now. Today peaked around 93k. We have over 50k cheaters banned. You do the math and cheats are in full effect in MW2. I have seen proof of cheats via video. You will see there is glitches to go under or off the map in some way, Or worse wall hackers, auto aimers. There is to many to list.

At least with a dedicated server we can eleminate these people with no remorse and never see them again.
Also I dont play with rasicst people. In MW2 all you can do is mute them. Our server they get removed and if they dont stop they are banned. Usually banned instantly.
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Read my original post: I haven't SEEN it on my playthroughs. That's not to say they weren't beeing used. I am fully aware that any system can be hacked and modded given the time and effort. (Ironically I have this same discussion when people tell me it's "impossible" for a mac to get a virus or hack). If it has a connection to the internet, someone probably has found a way to screw it up. I do agree with these points about dedicated servers. The ability to moderate your server is a great thing IMHO. The huge downside of live goes with the racism comment. You either gotta mute em and move on or quit. I love the fact that AUG regulates that sort of thing.

I've never liked the DLC system and wish it never came to pass. When it came around, I saw it as an opportunity to expand on many great games post market. The companies of course saw dollar signs.

Case in point to banning. Just got done playing a deathmatch with a guy exploiting the Javelin glitch. Me being the vocal guy that I am, I said my peace. All he said was "I've been banned before, no big deal". It's apparent the punishment on Live is not strong enough to get it through these kids' heads that you shouldn't be using a cheat. Funny thing is, on every subsequent match, I topped his score.

I'm actually contemplating getting the PC version of this just to play cannon fodder for AUG. Thing is, I'm not a mouse player on these things. I assume I can use my controller on PC so I may attempt to do it that way.

STILL there is something magical about destroying a team of vulgar 12 year olds on LIVE.

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The statement was towards any console player who thinks that. Not you directly.
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yeah you gotta love the little kiddies who's nuts suddenly drop whenever they pick up a 360 controller...
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well after the fact that all of them "USUALLY" get banned in the PC version ...you just gotta know that they turn to the 360 to make up for it
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